The full article gives a fair balance but as always the crackpot idea gets the first, most prominent, run. Oh, yes, it’s the SMH, again. And it’s the “Drive” section, so we can pretty much expect this sort of self-serving pro-motoring fluff. In summary the idea is that newer cars are inherently safer, more competent at speed and in braking performance and more protective if it all goes pear-shaped. Can’t argue too much against the idea that newer cars are “better” – but it’s an old argument: I can remember owners of better-handling, higher-performance European cars saying much the same 30 years ago. And it’s a variant on the “better drivers should be allowed to go faster” idea, too. And – ironically – “better” drivers would immediately see the problem: safety is about a combination of driver skill and attention, machine and road design and consistency (or regulation) in road behaviour. It’s not just about the car.
Speed limits are set according to road conditions, including local, surrounding features that are likely to introduce driver “challenges”, and common or “mean” levels of expectation about balancing the wants and needs of all road users. After all it’s not about pleasing just one segment of road user.
What you especially don’t want (but get anyway) is an inconsistent mix of speeds on our public roads. We already have trucks at a capped speed that sometimes is less than the posted absolute limit, but generally we recognise that and they fit in OK. We have slower vehicles, too, like caravans and cars towing trailers, or simply lower-powered or over-weight vehicles, but again we cope. And we have pedestrians and cyclists, pedal or motor-powered, doing whatever they are capable off. That seems like a lot of inconsistency already, so why add another layer? Why would we want some cars, hopefully identified in some obvious way, allowed to go faster? So that they can get to where they are going in less time, of course. But at what cost?
Consistency is an aid to safety and smooths traffic flow. It allows us to more easily predict approach speeds and plan our driving manoeuvers in advance with some reliability. As in lane changing and overtaking, or in entering or crossing the path of traffic. As drivers we learn to read both the real speed and position of approaching vehicles as well as rely on speed limits to set our general expectations. We don’t expect to see motor vehicles travelling well under or in excess of the posted limit and we find it a surprise when they do. That’s just the sort of nasty surprise we don’t want when pulling out of a side street or changing lanes. Of course people “speed” anyway and create those nasty surprises – but why should we want to legitimise speeding of any sort? What safety benefit is there in allowing some cars to go faster and thus introduce yet more complexity and difficulty into our driving environment?
Think about it. The speed inconsistencies or variations we have now are clearly linked with size, shape and ability. Trucks are physically obvious enough, surely. Caravans, trailers and bike riders are clearly different and obvious to the diligent driver as well. But to distinguish levels of car and thus speed by “newness” is a level of difficulty we really wouldn’t want. It wouldn’t be enough to slap a sticker on the car, we’d have to give it a flashing light as well. And in the most part all it would do is allow these “legally speeding” cars to get ahead of others and catch up to – or cause – the traffic jam up ahead. It’s a whacky, crazy idea. And inherently unsafe, if you actually care to think about it.
Should newer cars have higher speed limits? | Two-way street
So, why does a 1970s Kombi get to do the same speed on our highways as a BMW 7-Series that is engineered to safely cruise along at 200km/h without breaking a sweat?
It’s about consistency, stoopid.
Should newer cars have higher speed limits? | Two-way street
Turning the focus on drivers allows bureaucrats to justify picking the pockets of road users every time they creep a couple of kilometres an hour over the limit.
Lots of people believe that but it’s also an easy way to ignore real safety concerns and just run with your own self-interest.
Thankfully the SMH ends this pice of fluff with some thoughtfulness:
Should newer cars have higher speed limits? | Two-way street
A modern car fitted with every hazard-reducing bell and whistle can be driven by an absolute twit. You say the owners of older cars should have their speed limits restricted? I say bad driving should be monitored, and penalised, more efficiently.
Bravo!
Having ridden close to 300,000km in my lifetime I’ve just about seen everything imaginable, from fiesty kangaroos bent on destroying a peleton to looney drivers determined to rid the road of riders at all costs. As well as, in the majority, careful citizens just getting along. But this Shane Warne whinge is a rare one indeed – complete with tweeting and counter claims, all in the public eye. And the truth? Who knows. If it wasn’t Warnie it’d be just another day in the bike rider’s office, dodging cars, trucks and buses and keeping as alert as possible.
Warniegate! The cyclist’s side | Cycling Tips
At this point a pedestrian witnesses were yelling, “Get his rego” and some even yelled out his registration. One woman approached me offering assistance and asked, “Are you OK? Are you going to follow it up? I have the rego ” as she held her phone. I thanked her told her it wouldn’t be necessary – partially because I was in shock but also because I hadn’t yet realised the extent of the damage to my bike and I knew who the driver was anyway.
My girlfriend who had witnessed the whole thing from the adjacent corner now came over to ask if I was OK and what happened. “Shane Warne just ran into me with his car” I replied.
Shane Warne vs. cyclists: registration and number plates — David Johnstone
Shane Warne has managed to get himself embroiled in controversy again. This time it’s with cyclists. Firstly he wrote a series of tweets last week where he called for cyclists to ride in single file, show number plates, and pay registration. Unsurprisingly there were a lot of responses, some of which he retweeted. The classiest of them wasn’t from the wife of a certain famous Australian cricketer suggesting that he “just throw a cricket ball at them if they really annoy u”.
Cyclist hits back at Warne Today’s News – The Mercury – The Voice of Tasmania
The man alleged Warne “lurched his car forward forcing my bike wheel and almost my leg under the front of his car”.
He said following the incident he immediately went to the nearest police station to make a report.
Police have confirmed the man did take his bike to a station and said officers spoke to both parties.
It is believed police advised both parties to take civil action.
A police spokeswoman said due to the minor nature of the event a traffic incident report would not be submitted.
Cyclist hits back at Warne Today’s News – The Mercury – The Voice of Tasmania
Six-time ironman champion Luke McKenzie accused the cricketer of inciting hatred towards cyclists.
Amy Gillett Foundation spokesman David Lee said it was disappointing Warne was using his profile to inflame cyclist-driver tensions.
“Each road-user group has a requirement to respect the rights of the other, and inflaming the situation, whether you are a cyclist or a driver, doesn’t help,” he said.
Bicycle Network Victoria spokesman Jason den Hollander said Warne should be aware of the road rules and obey them, just like other road users.
Why bother with a report when you are going to pander only to those who have expressed their (apparently baseless) opinion anyway? Well to this state government it’s presumably about votes, not safety. They have already turned off speed cameras, even though a report said they were working as a deterrent. (And yes, some were working better than others, but why cull so many?)
And in this latest case NSW has the best and fairest system yet they want to make changes anyway; presumably to win over those who “complained”.
What I really like – or loathe, really – is a minister excusing their poor judgement by saying that “we want to ensure motorists can focus on the road“. Right! So road signs – designed to advise an appropriate speed for those who lack such judgement and powers of observation for themselves – are not part of the road. As drivers we shouldn’t be looking at signs, we should be focused on the road ahead, instead. So presumably whatever signs are left after this should be ignored on safety grounds. Yeah, right. But that’s the logical conclusion to this!
And as for pedestrians or cyclists, well they only become of interest when they are on the road itself and what they may be doing on the verge – or what they may do next – is irrelevant. Apparently. What a thinker this minister is!
Don’t believe me? Read the SMH report:
Speed zone split fairest in country, says report
THE NSW government should retain 70km/h and 90km/h speed zones and there is no justification motorists have a more confusing speed system than other states, a report reveals.
A report for Transport NSW by consultancy group ARRB has concluded ”70km/h and 90km/h speed limits should be retained as viable speed limit options for use on the NSW road network”.
So what does the state government want to do?
Speed zone split fairest in country, says report
But, despite the findings of his own report, the Roads Minister, Duncan Gay, confirmed last week that a review of NSW speed zoning guidelines had determined that 70km/h and 90km/h zones would be ”restricted”.
”Motorists have complained there are too many confusing speed signs and we have listened to their concerns,” he said. ”We want to ensure motorists can focus on the road when driving instead of constantly looking at changing speed signs.”
Bizarre. So let’s spend money fixing a problem that doesn’t exist. No surprise really.
You’d think there was a contradiction here… the auditor finds that overall speed cameras work yet the bottom 38 – the least effective and possibly “most hated” – are to be switched off “immediately”. Hmmm. Sounds odd. So they do work but we’ll switch ‘em off anyway ’cause we made a populist promise before the election. So much for good government and fact-based analysis I guess. Let alone bothering with an “audit”.
At least the old line that they are a “cash cow” can be put to rest – but I imagine those who get pinged by a camera from here on in will still reject their part in their own downfall.
I note also that a whole bunch of cameras will be turned off up here on the Central Coast. The Bateau Bay camera has few friends and there is indeed a case to be made to turn it and many others off (basically because people – often schoolkids – don’t usually cross just there and it could be better sited instead). But what about Woy Woy Road? At Kariong? Do they mean the camera just before that downhill plunge along the ridge? Is there another one, further up the road? Go and check it out, anyway. If it’s the one I’m thinking of then dear oh dear… let’s see how long before a speeder misreads the tight right-hander after that long straight and… well you can imagine who will be cleaning up the minister’s mess. (Not the minister, obviously.)
Even when poorly sited these cameras make a difference. The one on Manns Road at West Gosford slows the traffic, allowing people turning right out of side streets an even break. If you have ever tried to go right just there you’ll know that it matters. Otherwise you’ll get the odd nutter going 80+ and the careless just hurtling along, oblivious to others.
Of course you could site them better. Of course it’s populist. Of course it’ll be a vote winner. That’s what matters, surely?
Speed cameras: minister orders 38 to be switched off
NSW Roads Minister Duncan Gay has ordered that 38 speed cameras across the state be switched off immediately after an audit found that they were not improving road safety.
Mr Gay instructed the Roads and Traffic Authority to turn off the cameras after receiving a report from the state’s Auditor-General, Peter Achterstraat, this morning that identified the most hated cameras in NSW.
Mr Achterstraat’s report found that “overall, speed cameras change driver behaviour and improve road safety” and concluded there was no evidence that they were simply cash cows for the government.
I’d like to say I was surprised, but… I’m not. Read the entire article to get a feel for the serial safety infractions alleged by CASA and keep in mind that endlessly pushing for lower-cost fares does put the squeeze on operating costs, including staff salaries, training, maintenance and so on. In theory however a high-cost carrier could still plunder training and maintenance budgets to increase margins, so it’s not as simple as low cost = higher risk.
Anyway, immediately below is the most pertinent and informed comment I could find… but click below for the full story in any case…
15 klms north of Avalon is right in the marked GA transit lane (in class G airspace). Single-engine NVFR propeller planes with PPL pilots could quite easily have been there at the same time. To see and evade the traffic the Tiger pilots would have had to pick out the other plane’s navigation lights against the background of Geelong’s city lighting. Even if they did see and avoid, the turbulence created by such a heavy jet would be difficult to handle in a typical GA aircraft at night so close to the ground. Serious turbulence at night must be handled by reference to the artificial horizon because the natural horizon is not visible.A lot of errors must have been made for this to occur. This is indeed an imminent threat to air safety. I imagine the Tiger crew were lost and thought they were closer to Avalon than they really were. That creates a MAJOR risk of a CFIT accident at some aerodromes in Australia.
Tiger Airways faces extinction in Australia over safety fear | Plane Talking
I’ve just about done this to death, but here’s another example of language twisted to suit a purpose. In this example a “journalist” has decided that “safety” is a bolt-on thing, an option; a box that when ticked, renders you “safe”:
Sadly, though, safety is still an option on the most basic Mazda3.
Now no-one believes that, surely, but then again… words have power. Standard car – unsafe. With fresh bright new safety options fitted, safe. What a magical world we live in.
What the journo means is that additional passive safety features that may prove usefully protective in a range of crash situations are an optional extra, at additional cost. In the journo’s view it should not be by choice, rather we should be compelled to have the maximum array of explosive air bags around us at all times. Heaven help bike riders, then. They just lose skin.
Now I do agree cars should be rendered as ‘safe’ as possible, including by the wearing of helmets and multi-point harnesses. But that’s (sadly) not an option – and is often illegal (don’t ask why). Cars should also be agile, smaller, and less powerful; and I also think that we (as drivers) should remain focused, aware and law-abiding on the roads, but that’s apparently less useful than a set of explosive devices.
I’ll do my best to avoid writing about this for a while.
Filed under cars, safety by Rob.
I’ve just about done this to death, but here’s another example of language twisted to suit a purpose. In this example a “journalist” has decided that “safety” is a bolt-on thing, an option; a box that when ticked, renders you “safe”:
Sadly, though, safety is still an option on the most basic Mazda3.
Now no-one believes that, surely, but then again… words have power. Standard car – unsafe. With fresh bright new safety options fitted, safe. What a magical world we live in.
What the journo means is that additional passive safety features that may prove usefully protective in a range of crash situations are an optional extra, at additional cost. In the journo’s view it should not be by choice, rather we should be compelled to have the maximum array of explosive air bags around us at all times. Heaven help bike riders, then. They just lose skin.
Now I do agree cars should be rendered as ‘safe’ as possible, including by the wearing of helmets and multi-point harnesses. But that’s (sadly) not an option – and is often illegal (don’t ask why). Cars should also be agile, smaller, and less powerful; and I also think that we (as drivers) should remain focused, aware and law-abiding on the roads, but that’s apparently less useful than a set of explosive devices.
I’ll do my best to avoid writing about this for a while.
Filed under cars, safety by Rob.
The media loves to digest press releases and spit them back at us, with varying levels of additional balancing research added to counter the spin that the originator intended. Yesterday was the NYT, today it’s Forbes mag: “So all things being equal, if you’re concerned about safety, you want a bigger, heavier car.” Well, that’s the insurance organisation’s spin on it, anyway.
And of course it’s correct – the bigger the crush zone, the less force we experience in a prang. But it’s not the only way to be “concerned about safety”. For example we could simply drive smarter, take fewer risks and obey the road rules more religiously. Sure, accidents happen, but force being mass times acceleration means we could lop off some of that mass, which ironically could mean a smaller car, or ease off on acceleration. But the car industry thrives on acceleration – and emotion. The rational rarely gets a look in when it comes to cars, because “faster” and “more powerful” is portrayed as better. When we couple that with passive safety equipment and a host of gadgets to distract us we get fatter, heavier, bigger and more wasteful cars. And then one person will drive that 5-seater car to work. It’s not rational.
Historically, we made some sort of decision in the 1970s to ditch some proportion of fuel economy in favour of cleaner air, and that indeed made some sense, at least if you don’t consider driving less a valid option. We also dumped weight reduction for passive safety devices like airbags, which also made sense, at least if we don’t consider helmets and harnesses acceptable alternatives. But life isn’t black and white and our choices – or those made for us – have shaped the cars and the carbon pollution we face today. The net result of safety and clean air regulations has been heavier cars with poorer fuel consumption, with bigger, more powerful engines to make up for the extra flab. And more carbon released at every step, from manufacture to the actual driving. Were these the right choices, in the right proportions? Well who knows?
Just to illustrate what we have concocted with these legislated changes, I have a 1982 Alfa Romeo GTV coupe in the garage that weighs 1100kg and is propelled by a twin cam, carburetted 2litre four cylinder motor. That engine (in local Aussie spec) provides 175Nm of torque and 90kW of power (or 12.2 kg per W). For some odd reason we thought such specs not only sufficient but also quite sporty back in 1982. It was also quite expensive, relatively, which helped keep that sort of power out of inexperienced hands. Whereas today with cheap gas and cheaper cars we can get Subaru Impreza Turbo 4WD machines of 195kW/343Nm for much less money. And they weigh a mammoth 1425kg. Despite the weight gain (which has seen the WRX grow from a more reasonable 1200kg when released in the early ’90s) we have here a car with a power to weight ratio of just 7.5kg per W. So it’s waaaaay faster than a 1980′s 4 cylinder Alfa, or a 6 cylinder one for that matter! We could call that progress.
The Alfa was about $15,000 (Aussie dollars) new, which is roughly equivalent to $43k today. The much more potent (but arguably safer and cleaner, if you want to justify these things) WRX is just $39,990 RRP. It could be considered safer, in the passive sense that the forces of any collision will be dispersed away from the humans on board; and it has improved active mechanical and electronic aids to assist in avoiding an accident in the first place. In theory, at least. Balanced against that is the extra weight, meaning more force to disperse, and extra power, meaning both increased acceleration (and thus force) and a greater potential for accessing the additional force. Now that sounds like a lot of fun, but is it safer?
The WRX example is played out in the sedan car market, too. Heavier, faster, more powerful – and bigger – cars – for less money, all wrapped in a purported “safety” blanket. To me it seems a contradiction of terms to have ‘heavier, faster and more powerful’ yet ‘safer’ cars, but you can make a case for anything if you want to sell cars, can’t you?
And of course it’s all about freedom of choice, isn’t it?
The media loves to digest press releases and spit them back at us, with varying levels of additional balancing research added to counter the spin that the originator intended. Yesterday was the NYT, today it’s Forbes mag: “So all things being equal, if you’re concerned about safety, you want a bigger, heavier car.” Well, that’s the insurance organisation’s spin on it, anyway.
And of course it’s correct – the bigger the crush zone, the less force we experience in a prang. But it’s not the only way to be “concerned about safety”. For example we could simply drive smarter, take fewer risks and obey the road rules more religiously. Sure, accidents happen, but force being mass times acceleration means we could lop off some of that mass, which ironically could mean a smaller car, or ease off on acceleration. But the car industry thrives on acceleration – and emotion. The rational rarely gets a look in when it comes to cars, because “faster” and “more powerful” is portrayed as better. When we couple that with passive safety equipment and a host of gadgets to distract us we get fatter, heavier, bigger and more wasteful cars. And then one person will drive that 5-seater car to work. It’s not rational.
Historically, we made some sort of decision in the 1970s to ditch some proportion of fuel economy in favour of cleaner air, and that indeed made some sense, at least if you don’t consider driving less a valid option. We also dumped weight reduction for passive safety devices like airbags, which also made sense, at least if we don’t consider helmets and harnesses acceptable alternatives. But life isn’t black and white and our choices – or those made for us – have shaped the cars and the carbon pollution we face today. The net result of safety and clean air regulations has been heavier cars with poorer fuel consumption, with bigger, more powerful engines to make up for the extra flab. And more carbon released at every step, from manufacture to the actual driving. Were these the right choices, in the right proportions? Well who knows?
Just to illustrate what we have concocted with these legislated changes, I have a 1982 Alfa Romeo GTV coupe in the garage that weighs 1100kg and is propelled by a twin cam, carburetted 2litre four cylinder motor. That engine (in local Aussie spec) provides 175Nm of torque and 90kW of power (or 12.2 kg per W). For some odd reason we thought such specs not only sufficient but also quite sporty back in 1982. It was also quite expensive, relatively, which helped keep that sort of power out of inexperienced hands. Whereas today with cheap gas and cheaper cars we can get Subaru Impreza Turbo 4WD machines of 195kW/343Nm for much less money. And they weigh a mammoth 1425kg. Despite the weight gain (which has seen the WRX grow from a more reasonable 1200kg when released in the early ’90s) we have here a car with a power to weight ratio of just 7.5kg per W. So it’s waaaaay faster than a 1980′s 4 cylinder Alfa, or a 6 cylinder one for that matter! We could call that progress.
The Alfa was about $15,000 (Aussie dollars) new, which is roughly equivalent to $43k today. The much more potent (but arguably safer and cleaner, if you want to justify these things) WRX is just $39,990 RRP. It could be considered safer, in the passive sense that the forces of any collision will be dispersed away from the humans on board; and it has improved active mechanical and electronic aids to assist in avoiding an accident in the first place. In theory, at least. Balanced against that is the extra weight, meaning more force to disperse, and extra power, meaning both increased acceleration (and thus force) and a greater potential for accessing the additional force. Now that sounds like a lot of fun, but is it safer?
The WRX example is played out in the sedan car market, too. Heavier, faster, more powerful – and bigger – cars – for less money, all wrapped in a purported “safety” blanket. To me it seems a contradiction of terms to have ‘heavier, faster and more powerful’ yet ‘safer’ cars, but you can make a case for anything if you want to sell cars, can’t you?
And of course it’s all about freedom of choice, isn’t it?
An insurance “institute” crashes big cars into small ones and declares: …that while driving smaller and lighter cars saves fuel, “downsizing and down-weighting is also associated with an increase in deaths on the highway”. Yet they don’t actually nominate how many extra deaths will result, presumably because the crash scenarios are quite rare and the increase statistically difficult to pin down. Or maybe they are just scared to say.
Perhaps they also realise that big cars use more resources to start with – in manufacture alone – and that combined with their fat-car petrol consumption they will drive us to our destruction anyway. Dead is dead, no matter how we get there.
Now everyone has an axe to grind, and it’s hard to know the truth. You could be forgiven for thinking that an insurance-funded body may actually want to see fewer crashes, and lesser-value claims. However the insurance companies may also just want to instil some fear and trepidation, in hope of raising premiums on smaller cars. Who can tell? In this instance they nominate small cars as the “compromise”, suggesting that people are trading some measure of “safety” for better fuel consumption. Perhaps they should have turned it around and suggested that people who buy larger, thirstier cars are compromising the safety of smaller vehicles and their passengers? So why are small cars seen as the compromise?
Ahh, fact is, there is no absolute “truth”. There are no guarantees, nothing is truly “safe” and all is relative. If a big car hits a truck, they are in the same position as the small car. And if a small car hits a bike rider, well you can see where that will lead. So should we ban bikes and small cars and run out of gas a whole lot quicker? I don’t think so.
So if we accept that they are disadvantaged in size, why not propose a new deal for small cars? Or for bike riders, for that matter? Currently we only get the vehicle safety features we are offered – crumple zones and amazing exploding bags – rather than the roll cages, helmets and harnesses that would make cars truly safer. Indeed, car manufacturers compromise our safety by offering only complex, heavy and sub-optimal passive safety devices that are least likely to reduce car sales. And we are complicit in this by accepting these compromised solutions. Most likely because we don’t want to have helmet hair after a drive to the shops. But in many places (including Australia) bike riders are compelled to wear helmets. It could be time to even up the score.
Filed under bicycles, cars, safety by Rob.
An insurance “institute” crashes big cars into small ones and declares: …that while driving smaller and lighter cars saves fuel, “downsizing and down-weighting is also associated with an increase in deaths on the highway”. Yet they don’t actually nominate how many extra deaths will result, presumably because the crash scenarios are quite rare and the increase statistically difficult to pin down. Or maybe they are just scared to say.
Perhaps they also realise that big cars use more resources to start with – in manufacture alone – and that combined with their fat-car petrol consumption they will drive us to our destruction anyway. Dead is dead, no matter how we get there.
Now everyone has an axe to grind, and it’s hard to know the truth. You could be forgiven for thinking that an insurance-funded body may actually want to see fewer crashes, and lesser-value claims. However the insurance companies may also just want to instil some fear and trepidation, in hope of raising premiums on smaller cars. Who can tell? In this instance they nominate small cars as the “compromise”, suggesting that people are trading some measure of “safety” for better fuel consumption. Perhaps they should have turned it around and suggested that people who buy larger, thirstier cars are compromising the safety of smaller vehicles and their passengers? So why are small cars seen as the compromise?
Ahh, fact is, there is no absolute “truth”. There are no guarantees, nothing is truly “safe” and all is relative. If a big car hits a truck, they are in the same position as the small car. And if a small car hits a bike rider, well you can see where that will lead. So should we ban bikes and small cars and run out of gas a whole lot quicker? I don’t think so.
So if we accept that they are disadvantaged in size, why not propose a new deal for small cars? Or for bike riders, for that matter? Currently we only get the vehicle safety features we are offered – crumple zones and amazing exploding bags – rather than the roll cages, helmets and harnesses that would make cars truly safer. Indeed, car manufacturers compromise our safety by offering only complex, heavy and sub-optimal passive safety devices that are least likely to reduce car sales. And we are complicit in this by accepting these compromised solutions. Most likely because we don’t want to have helmet hair after a drive to the shops. But in many places (including Australia) bike riders are compelled to wear helmets. It could be time to even up the score.
Filed under bicycles, cars, safety by Rob.
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